Episode Overview
When you have a profitable trade, what do you do with the money that was earned on the swing trade? Do you re-invest it in another new position immediately, or do you cash out the gains for personal use, or perhaps even transfer it to a long-term account? In this podcast episode, Ryan tackles the question of making the next-right decision in one’s trading and resisting the urge to have to “do-something” with the profits earned.
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Episode Highlights & Timestamps
- [0:00] The Listener Question โ โJuddโ Asks What to Do With Trading Gains
Ryan introduces the topic and reads an email from a listener struggling with what to do after a profitable trade. - [1:34] Trading vs. Golf: The Journey of Constant Improvement
Ryan compares trading to golf, underscoring the need for ongoing growth rather than believing youโve “arrived” after one good year. - [4:29] Why Immediate Reinvestment Isnโt Always Best
Traders often feel pressure to put gains right back into the market, but Ryan emphasizes the value of holding cash and practicing patience. - [8:49] The Dangers of Dollar Watching
Personalizing gains and losses can sabotage your trading psychology. Ryan urges listeners to treat profits objectively, not emotionally. - [20:52] Make the Right Next Decision, Not Just the Next Trade
Ryan closes by advising traders to focus on making wise, strategic decisions rather than rushing into new trades out of excitement or pressure.
Key Takeaways from This Episode:
- You Havenโt “Arrived” in Trading: One winning year doesnโt mean youโve mastered trading constant improvement is the real goal.
- Cash Is a Strategy: Donโt feel pressured to reinvest profits immediately. Keeping cash on hand can be strategic, especially during uncertain markets.
- Avoid Emotional Attachments to Money: Seeing gains as mortgage payments or tuition leads to emotional trading. Focus on performance metrics, not dollar amounts.
- Wait for the Right Opportunity: Patience pays. Ryan recommends placing profits in money market funds like SVWXX until a solid opportunity arises.
- Match Your Strategy to Your Lifestyle: Donโt overextend yourself for the sake of excitement. Sustainable trading requires emotional stability and personal balance.
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Full Episode Transcript
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0:00
Hey everybody, this is Ryan Mallory with shareplanner.com. Swing trade in the stock market. In today’s episode, we are going to talk about reinvesting your gains from a profitable trade. What do you do with the profits that you make when you have a really good trade? And so today’s e-mail comes from a listener of the show, first-time writer to the show.
0:21
And I’m going to give him a fake name. I give everybody a fictitious name just because I don’t want to use their real identity. I don’t want them to regret it, you know, 10 years down the road. This case, I’m going to give him a good Florida redneck name. Being that I’m from Florida, I’m going to give him the name of Judd.
0:37
Hey Ryan, first, thank you so much for your podcast. I’ve learned a ton and I feel as if I’ve turned a corner in my trading. I’m by no means very successful, but your content is much appreciated. Sometimes I wonder about how you handle your profits. I found that whenever I experience a trade and take profits, I’m too eager to reinvest the gains.
0:58
So do you use any type of strategy after booking the profits, or do you mainly just allow the gains to grow in your investable account or capital? I’m thinking about just automatically putting my gains made by any of my winning trades in the SPY or QQQ, but I’m wondering if there is a better way to handle the profits.
1:16
Thank you, sincerely, Judd. OK Judd, good question. One of the things that I like to do as well is dissect the email a little bit too, to see if there’s any clues in what they’re saying that goes beyond just the question and maybe could use a little bit of correcting.
1:34
He talks about how he’s turned a corner in his trading. I wouldn’t so much look at trading as something like, “OK, I finally arrived.” You know, letโs say the first five years you’re trading, you’re constantly losing, you’re not making any gains. Then finally you have your first positive year and you’re like, “Alright, I’ve arrived. I’ve turned the corner.”
1:51
That’s really not how you want to look at it. Take golfing, for instanceโif you’re going to shoot par, thatโs like 72 in most cases, right? I’m not a golfing expert, but I think there’s a lot of parallels to golfing and trading.
2:14
So you want to keep improving. You want to get closer to par. And then when you get to par, you want to get under par. Right? And the more you get under par, the better at golf you are than the average Joe. So itโs kind of like trading.
2:33
You want to see constant improvement. You want to see better execution, better profit management, better risk management, better taking gains along the way, less emotions in your trade.
2:48
You want to be driving better. You want to be approaching the greens better. You want to be getting yourself out of sand traps and the high weeds and you want to be putting better and be able to read the greens better.
3:04
And I don’t know if you’re ever really the greatest you can ever get at golfing until you’re essentially doing a hole-in-one on every single holeโand that’s never really going to happen.
3:22
And it’s like trading. You’re never going to be the master trader. You’re never going to be scoring 100% on every one of your trades, though you keep trying to push in that direction.
3:38
So you don’t want to look at whether or not you’ve turned the corner, but whether or not you’re constantly improving. Are you continuously refining your trading game? Are you doing better at risk management? Are you doing better with the emotions? Are you finding that right position size for your trading?
3:54
And then are you executing the trades, managing the trades and closing out your trades? Are you reflecting on the trades and what you could do better next time and tweaking the strategy to make sure it’s being optimized on a regular basis?
4:13
The market doesn’t care about how well you’re doing or how bad you’re doing. It’ll take from me on the next trade just like it will do with a horrible trader or a great trader.
4:29
Now to his main questionโwhat do I do with the gains when I make a profit? Do I reinvest those gains immediately? There’s a huge tendency with a lot of traders to want to be able to reinvest their gains.
4:47
So letโs say you put $10,000 on a trade and you come away with a 20% gain. Now that $10,000 is worth $12,000. You immediately want to put that $12,000 toward something else. A lot of people donโt like sitting in cash. But Iโve got to tell you, swing tradingโand just trading in generalโis a lot about cash management.
5:06
You look at Warren Buffett right nowโhe is one of the most profitable traders of all time. And what does he have? He has the largest cash position that heโs ever had. Heโs got hundreds of billions of dollars sitting in cash right now. Thatโs because he doesnโt have a reason to reinvest that money yet.
5:25
If he did, that money would already be reinvested. So as traders, we have to be OK with money sitting in cash. Now for me, when I have it sitting in cash and I donโt foresee it being employed right away, Iโll put it in SVWXX.
5:40
That is the Charles Schwab money market fund. Itโll pay you some interest. Usually around 4% or so. Is it a lot? No. But itโs sitting there. Itโs making something while that moneyโs not being deployed. So Iโm actually making gains with those gains just by having it in something thatโs earning interest until I make my next trade.
5:57
And then when I need that money, Iโll take it out and put it into the market. But I donโt trade just because I have to trade. Iโve gone through that in my trading career where I always felt like I needed to be 100% long, like I always needed to be in somethingโand that, frankly, doesnโt work.
6:18
Yes, it creates a lot of activity. Trading is exciting. Thereโs always something crazy happening in the markets. But being in cash is boring. Itโs always boring. Thereโs nothing fun about it. But itโs an essential component to trading.
6:34
Being in cash can make the difference between whether or not youโre really a successful trader. Because hereโs what I would sayโand Iโm trying to break it down in its simplest formsโwhen it comes to trading…
6:50
When weโre in cash, it should be when we are the most uncertain about the marketโs direction. When we are most heavily vested in the market, it should be when the market is at its most bullish, when it has its most consistent gains being continuously made, where youโre constantly adding new positions and your old positions arenโt getting you stopped out.
7:08
Yes, youโre taking partial profits along the way, but the ride-or-die position isnโt getting stopped out. So youโre able to add continuously more and more profitable positions to your portfolio.
7:28
Now on the other side of the trade, when it comes to shorting, in a heightened volatile market, itโs better to trade with less because you can get squeezed out of positions very quickly in a bear market. When you get those dead cat bounces, itโs better to trade with fewer positions so that your emotions are more easily managed in a volatile market.
7:46
Unlike bullish markets, you have to be aggressive with profit-taking in a bear market or even just in a market pullback. Because historically, the market goes back up. Yes, there are dips and crashes, but by and large, it goes back up.
8:14
So you have to keep that in mind when youโre shorting. Weโre not trying to short a stock down to zero. If we can get 5โ10% out of a short position, thatโs great. Letโs move on to the next trade. Prep for the dead cat bounce and maybe reload those short positions once the bounce fizzles out.
8:30
But taking your positions that you just made and closed out with a good gainโdonโt feel like you have to put it into something right away. A lot of that comes down to dollar watching.
8:49
And if youโve been listening to the show for a long time, you know I hate the idea of dollar watching because dollar watching personalizes gains. And when you start personalizing gains, youโre injecting variables into the market that the market doesnโt care about.
9:10
Going back to that $10,000 example that turned into $12,000โyou made a 20% return on the trade. That $2,000 suddenly becomes your rent payment, your mortgage payment, or your kidโs college tuition for the fall. It starts to become personal to you.
9:28
And that means youโre attaching emotions to those gains. That means if the next trade doesnโt work out, now youโre not just losing capital, youโre losing something emotionally significantโyour daughterโs tuition, your medical bill, or credit card payoff.
9:46
Thatโs what that money becomes to you. So if youโre dollar watchingโand I donโt dollar watchโbecause when I do, I attach personal feelings to that money. I focus on returns.
10:03
Yes, if I want to, I can look at the percentage that Iโm up. If Iโm up 20% on a $10,000 trade, I know I made $2,000. But when Iโm looking at it in the account, it just does something differently. So I avoid looking at dollar gains because I donโt want to personalize them.
10:25
I donโt want them to become something I attach human emotions, needs, or desires to. When the tradeโs over, the capital and the gains go back into the same bucket. Theyโre not separate.
10:45
You have a bucket. You have gains here. You have capital here. When youโre done with the trade, it should all go back into the bucket.
11:02
Now, I know some people will say, “Well, Iโm going to take the gains and put them into a long-term account.” Thatโs fine. I donโt really do that. I keep everything separate. I keep everything in different accounts.
11:02
But the only thing with doing that isโwhat do you do during drawdowns? Even if you only have an average drawdown of two or three percentโand I donโt usually see much more than that for myselfโthatโs still eroding away at your capital.
11:25
And if all the profits youโre making are going into a different account, then over time your account is going to get smaller because all the profits are being taken away, but all the losses are remaining.
11:42
So Iโm not a huge fan of just putting it into another account, into SPY or QQQ. Thatโs really like making another trade. Itโs great if thatโs your long-term move and you want a dollar-cost average into SPY or QQQ.
12:05
Right now though, the market has never been more overvaluedโat least in my opinionโthan at any other point in history. That doesnโt mean it canโt keep going higher. It could. It could go another 20โ30% before thereโs ever a pullback.
12:22
But Iโd rather invest long term into positions where the market is coming back from a significant pullback. Thatโs why I havenโt really added much to my long-term positions over the past two-plus years.
12:42
I got into names like Robinhood in 2022, and itโs up something like 500%. But I havenโt added to it since. Iโve actually taken profits and raised cash.
13:10
If thereโs another pullback, Iโd want to buy moreโwhether itโs Robinhood, DraftKings, or SPY and QQQ. I have long-term positions in those names, but I havenโt added to them in years.
13:31
If we get a 20โ30% pullback, then those ETFs become more attractive because entries matterโa lotโon long-term positions. Even more so in some ways than they do with swing trades.
13:43
Letโs say SPY is trading at $100 a share. You buy in, and then we go through a recession and it drops to $50. Youโve got no capital left to allocate. You missed the opportunity.
13:59
Then when it bounces back to $100, you havenโt lost anythingโbut you havenโt gained anything either. Had you waited for the pullback and bought in at $50, then when it returns to $100, youโre already up 100%.
14:20
Thatโs why timing your entry really matters. And if SPY goes to $200 in ten years, youโre up 100% from your $100 entry, but 300% if you got in at $50.
14:52
Thatโs a huge difference. Waiting for the better opportunity can make a big impact. And right now, SPY is trading just 3% from its all-time highs. Thatโs not a significant pullback.
15:31
So if you want to invest your swing trading gains into long-term ETFs like SPY or QQQ, I still think it makes sense to wait for a better opportunity.
15:47
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16:05
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16:23
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16:39
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17:06
Back to our discussionโideally, if I had it my way, Iโd love to be 200% long all the time. That would satisfy my need for action and excitement.
17:22
But it would be a poor strategy. It would lead to significant losses. Itโs not something I could sustain emotionally, and honestly, my wife wouldnโt like me much.
17:39
Because emotionally, Iโd be wrecked. Thatโs why your trading has to match your lifestyle.
17:57
If you want to trade futures overnight but youโre raising a kid during the day, that might not be the best match. Youโll be tired, make bad decisions, and not be present as a parent.
18:14
Your trading needs to be conducive to your lifestyle. For me, trading 200% long all the time would leave me high-strung and miserable.
18:30
My kids would try to avoid me. You have to manage your trading emotionallyโand responsibly.
18:46
Just because you want to put all your money to work doesnโt mean you should. What you want and what you should do are two different things.
19:06
If I could, Iโd be 500โ600% longโdigging coins out of the couch cushions to invest. But that would lead to disaster.
19:26
Instead, I manage risk. If Iโm not ready for a trade, Iโll put the money into a money market account that earns interestโmaybe around 4%.
19:44
Thatโs still earning while I wait. And right now, weโre in a horrendous market for tradingโitโs been that way since November.
20:02
Weโve got gap downs, fake runs, huge selloffs, and no real direction. Lots of action, no follow-through.
20:19
So what should your strategy be after booking profits? One, move on. Donโt dwell on the gains. Donโt feel pressure to immediately reinvest.
20:35
Continue your strategy. I use a top-down trading approach. If the market, sectors, and industries arenโt aligned, I donโt trade.
20:52
I focus on making the right next decisionโnot just making the next trade. That might mean sitting in cash or closing a position.
21:12
Sometimes the right decision isnโt entering a new positionโitโs doing nothing. Trading is a lot about waiting.
21:29
Thatโs why I always recommend having a sidekickโsomething else you enjoy. For me, if I didnโt have SharePlanner, Iโd probably do woodworking.
21:49
Iโm not good at it, but I love watching YouTube channels about woodworking. Itโs something Iโd like to learn in retirement.
22:07
So remember, itโs not about what you want to do with your money. Itโs about what the right next decision is.
22:25
And when you have a really good trade, donโt just feel like youโve got to invest it somewhere. If nothing else, put it in a money market fund until the right opportunity comes along.
22:42
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23:00
Let me know in the comments: What do you do with profits after a great trade? Do you sit in cash? Reinvest? Go short? I want to hear from you.
23:16
Thanks again, and God bless.
23:35
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